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Old 02-03-2013, 12:28 PM
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America's deadliest sniper, a SEAL, author of American Sniper was shot dead at a Texas shooting range by a discharged Marine suffering from PTSD...
Throughout his book he said that he never felt regret for anyone he shot in time of war, that his biggest regret was the Marines and Army soldiers he could not save....
He had a loving wife and two kids who he loved so much he cut his career short leaving the Service before reaching retirement...
America lost a good man
Rest in Peace Chris Kyle..
You'll stand clean before god....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#axzz2JqdcnhG2
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:43 PM
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An American Hero...

Watch This Video:
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:50 PM
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Unbelievable. After all he'd been through in Ramadi and Fallujah....to be murdered "in his own backyard" by someone with mental problems. That makes me mad. I've read American Sniper, good book. Great American. This just sucks.
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Horrible.
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Old 02-03-2013, 02:56 PM
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Sitting here and the more I think about this tragedy...
I'm stunned...
Yet
Angry and mad
Two different things BTW
First...
The Marine... I have no idea why he did such a thing..

Combat changed him
That will be the defense attorneys line of defense

But if that's the case then why are so many of these latest veterans diagnosed with PTSD
I was shot at and missed, I strained whenever the Patriot missile horn blared and the launchers swiveled seeking an incoming scud, (I pee'd in a chemical suit when they actually launched a patriot, watching that falling star coming, racing to put on a gas mask and hood, remembering one speck of vx nerve agent will kill you and thinking of hammering the nerve antidote with that huge needle into my thigh.. Ohh darn) Brave? moi? No..I've been dry mouthed many times, I've been led and led people into combat...I've picked up pieces of fellow MP's yet...

Here we are.

Service to country a defense for a heinous act..

I don't recall a similar outburst of crime after WW2, Korea, both of which I rely on historical notes as I was not born yet some Vietnam vets went to dope and homelessness but not violence, GW1 and Somalia had none....

The second thing:
A good friend passed this past month, he served in Vietnam...his grandson is serving as did his late beloved son...

He had a turn of phrase whenever PTSD was quoted: "Broke going in, broke coming out"

So is this society we live in causing combat veterans to develop such stresses that they crack. if that is the case will all combat veterans be loaded into "the universal database" society is now demanding for all gun owners or mental health patients?

Will all veterans who show any symptoms be locked away as menaces to society...

It's a slow day and the mind is racing...hope I got the point across...
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Like you say, I have never heard of PTSD until now.
WW1/WW2/Korea/Vietnam No PTSD
They had to be broken before going in for sure.
In Vietnam There were plenty of drug users, but they didn't turn into crazy killers.
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And while I'm at it..
PTSD, a friends Son was diagnosed. A Tanker, he lost a crewman while dismounted to a mortar round. Tragic. Any loss is tragic. He did his one tour and at the end of his enlistment got out. He went to pre discharge medical exams and was interviewed by the VA docs who said he had PTSD. While visiting my friend he took me aside. Uncle MKPA, I don't feel right.
He was taking 20% disability from the VA but they had him on meds that made him a "zombie". The kid who grew up in my house always trying to get a date with my daughter, was not the man in front of me..."TAKE THE MONEY KID, LOSE THE DRUGS, and get an Education!"

I'm very happy to say he's doing well as an investment banker.
Well except for the investment banker part I'm proud of him...
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It may very well be the drugs that they are giving people that make them so violent.
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And the number one reason I did not vote for Ron Paul: His hatred of the Military
http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/04/ro...-by-the-sword/
RP tweeted in response to Chris Kyle's senseless death
He who lives by the sword, dies by the Sword
Nice, real nice.....hope he retires forever from politics...
Saves me from writing letters......
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does it strike anyone else as odd, that our special forces members...our strongest warriors, seem to be under attack from within? maybe its just a startling coincidence.
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